Curse

novawhiz · Apr 03, 2006, 07:19 PM // 19:19

I saw Undead Preacher's 55 necro guide, so i made a 55 necro. While I experimented with it I found a better build like it. I hope this helps any begginer 55 Necros and help you make money.

-I give Some Credit to Undead Preacher and KPC but i changed build a lot.

Mending
Bathzar's Spirit
Essence Bond
Protective Spirit(PS)
Healing Breeze(HB)
Guardian
Shielding Hands
Spiteful Spirit(SS)*You can cap ss right outside Camp Rankor

You need a Sup. Rune on every piece of armor. Doesn't matter wich where as long as curses is on headpeice(+1)
Blood Magic- 5
Death Magic- 3
Soul Reaping- 3
Curses- 16

Items:Off-hand= -50hp cesta(You can get in quest from scribe in Ascalon)
On-hand= Any 1 hand wand- Recomended Collectors 20% Recharge wand(Get outside Dunes) or Fiery Flam Spliter(spell recharge halve 10%) or if you have 500k to throw around a HoD sword(Enchantments last 20%longer +5 energy)

When your at Elona(or anywhere for that matter) first put all 3 enchantments on you. Then(only apllies for Elona IN MISSION) open gate and get the first mino to chase you. Pull them to the cluster of mino and use ps and hb. Then use gaurdian and once all mino are on you use shielding hands. After you have a good mantain of these spells cast ss. Cylce through ps, hb, and guardian and when ss recharges cast it on a mino with a lot of health. It takes practice but once you master it, you can do a run in 1min 30 sec. and make around 500g(Not counting purple and gold drops) money each run.

I have some pictures of me farming Elona Mission, Outside Elona, Hydra, Grawl Outside Droks, and IDS farming Ice imps outside Grotto, but i can't figure out how to post pictures. If anyone can help me with that I'd be happy

(Everytime I try to upload an attachment it times out and cant load...

If u have any Questions or Comments I'd be glad to hear them(Either post here or talk to me in game).
IGN= Nova Minion Master

Bloodied Blade · Apr 03, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Have you tried combining PS and Shielding Hands yet? I'm not so sure that it works to reduce your damage to 0. Also, you shouldn't need SH vs only minotaurs...try subbing something like Suffering or Rotting Flesh in for SH against those, my SS/SV partner often brings Suffering and Rotting Flesh along with SS for farming, makes the mob die in under 15 seconds.

In your case I would substitute Awaken the Blood for Shielding Hands, since you will have 18 in your curses attribute while AtB is up.

Have you tried soloing UW yet? If you can, it really increases your cash flow.

mint · Apr 03, 2006, 08:18 PM // 20:18

Shielding hands? wtf?

insideous parasite is a better choice...you can tank a huge number of monsters with it

novawhiz · Apr 03, 2006, 08:51 PM // 20:51

Ya probably, i might try awaken blood.

And yes i have tried to solo UW and i need help on how to. i got build, i just always die. If u can help me-that would be kool. And yes i do know that shielding hands doesnt reduce to 0 it subtract first so it does nothing-im not sure y i put it in build.*Shruggs Shoulder* Mustve been drunk, lol jk.

greaterlych · Apr 03, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

I don't mean to flame you at all, but you really can't take credit for slightly modifying a build someone took a long time to create. KCP deserves all the credit for the solo necro build, especially when you modified it in a way that reduces its functionality. On top of the fact that Shielding Hands doesn't reduce the 5 damage you recieve, Insidious Parasite does a much better job of keeping you alive AND doing damage. I use Insidious Parasite when farming minos, and I have swapped out Guardian for Vigorous Spirit. Guardian reduces damage against you, but it also reduces your energy recovery. This is a real problem in the underworld when you end up fighting a single aatxe. It keeps up your health without reducing energy recovery and it only costs 5 energy every 30 seconds. Insidious Parasite and Vigorous Spirit combined will keep you alive against even the largest groups of minos.

Edit: Your soul reaping should also be at 4, not 3. You have some left over skill points.

Sagura Kagurake · Apr 04, 2006, 02:17 AM // 02:17

ya I made a 55 nec resently and tryed soloing fow first which is hard >_< I just got to time it right with mesmer shatering enchant and uw I got killed because of so many interupts I used guardian too, but I did get past the cows and got to grasping and had first mob then second mob came and killed me if anyone can help me I would appreciat it.

novawhiz · Apr 04, 2006, 01:12 PM // 13:12

Ya FoW is much harder than UW; And I still have trouble on smiters in UW.

Niosisw · Apr 04, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

Sheilding hands stacks with PS??

I'm just going to assume it doesn't because I've never seen it before.

novawhiz · Apr 04, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Im sorry i made a big mistake.

SHielding Hands does not stack with ps.

If the dmg. coming at you was 35dmg. shielding hands reduces it to 23 and then ps makes it 5.

Use insedioues parastie instead.

MelechRic · Apr 04, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

Crazy as it sounds, I've actually found that Faintheartedness is a good way to slow down damage. When I farm Avicara (2 braves, 3 fierce) I tend to use Faint to slow down those Dual Shot spamming Fierce. I also use it to finish off the Braves since they are so good at using Savage Slash to interrupt my Spiteful.

Puting Faintheartedness on 1 of the 5 opponents will slow down the damage enough so that Breeze + Mending + Insidious can keep up.

Of course you should never put Faint on a monster that already has Insidious or Spiteful on it. That's counterproductive.

Just my empirically arrived at opinion.

Dark Tykane · Apr 04, 2006, 11:24 PM // 23:24

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Originally Posted by greaterlych

I don't mean to flame you at all, but you really can't take credit for slightly modifying a build someone took a long time to create. KCP deserves all the credit for the solo necro build, especially when you modified it in a way that reduces its functionality. On top of the fact that Shielding Hands doesn't reduce the 5 damage you recieve, Insidious Parasite does a much better job of keeping you alive AND doing damage. I use Insidious Parasite when farming minos, and I have swapped out Guardian for Vigorous Spirit. Guardian reduces damage against you, but it also reduces your energy recovery. This is a real problem in the underworld when you end up fighting a single aatxe. It keeps up your health without reducing energy recovery and it only costs 5 energy every 30 seconds. Insidious Parasite and Vigorous Spirit combined will keep you alive against even the largest groups of minos.

Edit: Your soul reaping should also be at 4, not 3. You have some left over skill points.

Well if you don't give credit to people for slightly modifying a build then why are you giving it to KCP for slightly modifying Invinci-monk. Theres not a bid defference to me and its obvious that you could switch the class of an invinci-monk so you have more damage.

greaterlych · Apr 05, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

Well if you don't give credit to people for slightly modifying a build then why are you giving it to KCP for slightly modifying Invinci-monk. Theres not a bid defference to me and its obvious that you could switch the class of an invinci-monk so you have more damage.

You're right, 5/8 skills he used are from the orignal invinci-monk build. But each other skill in his build has multiple uses in, and out of the underworld. He put a lot of thought into the strategy used to solo down there. I was just pointing out that novawhiz obviously didn't put as much effort into it. He swapped out a single skill that doesn't do anything, and took a point out of soul reaping for no reason. On top of that, he decided to take the credit for weakening the build. Arguing over the internet is an exercise in futility, but I always like having the last word. I don't want to hijack this thread, so send me some PM's if you want to continue this debate.

MelechRic · Apr 05, 2006, 02:34 AM // 02:34

I'd love a comment on Faintheartedness. I find it very useful for slowing down damage. Anybody else agree/disagree?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I find I need it when I have enough enemies on me that can do >> 55dmg per round of attack.

Kcp · Apr 05, 2006, 03:27 AM // 03:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by MelechRic

I'd love a comment on Faintheartedness. I find it very useful for slowing down damage. Anybody else agree/disagree?

Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I find I need it when I have enough enemies on me that can do >> 55dmg per round of attack.

I take it faintheartedness is what you are using versus avicara fierce correct. If there's 2 fierce in a group using dual shot prepared with ignite arrows it hurts. I simply cast insidous parasite on them and focus on the braves since they are the ones that interrupt. The dual shot will hit you and feed you 42 life and subtract that from the fierce...they wont last long and you shouldn't die either. Same deal with brave's as an aatxe they both use savage slash.

Keeping guardian up around lots of enemies isn't a bad idea either. 40% block is better then nothing especially if there are more enemies then you can take hits from and survive.

Valkyries · Apr 06, 2006, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

Well if you don't give credit to people for slightly modifying a build then why are you giving it to KCP for slightly modifying Invinci-monk. Theres not a bid defference to me and its obvious that you could switch the class of an invinci-monk so you have more damage.

I really have to disagree with this.

Yes, it is true this is derived from invinci-monk. However, its using a completely different class, with a totally different purpose. Furthermore, almost every single archtype that is created now is derived from someone elses build. You modify it based on how it performs and suits your play style.

What greaterlych was arguing was that this build was changed very slightly from KCP's build... Its like if someone took the Invinci-monk and changed 1-2 skills and said 'this is my build'. KCP came up with a good idea to use a different class but with more power and arguably better overall. Its like saying Sony cannot make a TV because Samsung already has one.

Honestly though, I really think this entire thing is irrevlant because people post these ideas on forums like this to get help with their build and make it easier for EVERYONE to play. If they didn't want the public to see it, they would not have posted it in the first place. Also, you have to give credit to the OP for giving some details on how to farm these areas and come up with some good strategies.

My 2 cents.

HeLLScReaMM · Dec 30, 2007, 11:46 PM // 23:46

well i m a rookie for farmin even that i didnot know till i saw on this website that sth like that exists :P well in short i have N/Mo char but i dunno how to make my build available for farming

i read that stuff yeah useful but for example where can i find all this skills ? if anyone can help me will be gratefull thanks for listenin... Happy New year everyone

Emik · Dec 31, 2007, 12:57 AM // 00:57

Thread Necromancy Galore

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Moloch Vein · Dec 31, 2007, 05:28 AM // 05:28

Wow. That's a hardcore bump.

Jagged · Jan 04, 2008, 09:17 PM // 21:17

So what are some good 55 farming areas in EOTN since none of the guides have been updated? I'm thinking the Minotaurs/Wendigos/Aurochs in Far Shiverpeaks or maybe the Raptors in Tarnished Coast?